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015: Katy Atlas: How Cooking Doesn’t Have To Be Complicated

March 20, 2015 by Gabriel Leave a Comment

Katy Atlas of Sugarlaws on The Dinner Special podcast talking about a dish that's good for parents.
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On Sugarlaws Katy shares health and beauty tips, very personal stories including her new adventures in motherhood and of course FOOD. Katy has also penned a series of incredibly well-received novels called, Moving Neutral.

I am so delighted to have Katy Atlas from Sugarlaws joining me on the show today.

On Starting Her Blog:

Katy Atlas of Sugarlaws on The Dinner Special podcast talking about starting her blog.

This is a thing that I’ve never really talked about on my blog, but I actually had a personal blog in college.

So actually before Sugarlaws was born I had a live journal for about three years in college. And then I gave it up when I started law school because I had this idea that I was going to be this very serious lawyer, and very serious lawyers don’t blog and certainly don’t write about things that they do on the Internet.

I found that I just missed it so much. I just kind of missed having that outlet. I missed sharing with people that way. I missed getting to know people through blogging. And so when I was a year out of law school I started Sugarlaws. In a lot of ways I think it was kind of a natural outgrowth.

I love to write. I’ve always kind of been a writer. I think it’s something that I was born with. And so it felt very natural. Again, I think it was also a way not even just to write but to communicate and to connect with people.

When I first started Sugarlaws it was exclusively recipes. It was because I was learning how to cook. I was sort of on my own for the first time.

In law school I hadn’t really cooked very much and I was starting my first job and I wanted to learn this skill. I found that I was taking pictures of these recipes, that I would make them and email them around to my friends and my family. I just thought, like, “Okay, well, why not put them on the Internet?”

I originally thought it would sort of be my own little cookbook that I could come back to and have all these recipes and figure out what I liked about them and what I didn’t, and what I tried and what I wanted to try. Then suddenly people started reading it. That kind of shocked me at first.

It’s like, “Who are you? You’re not my mom, what’s going on?” It was really my cooking adventures for the first year and a half. Then eventually as I felt like I’d mastered a lot of cooking skills I expanded it to add fashion and beauty and lifestyle. And now again I’ve kind of expanded it to write about parenting a little bit.

On Her Connection with Her Readers:

Katy Atlas of Sugarlaws on The Dinner Special podcast talking about her connection with her audience.

One of the things that I always think is really cool is I’ll get emails from readers a lot and there’ll be people who say, “I’ve followed you since those early days when you were taking a photo with your little point and shoot,” because I didn’t even have an iPhone back then.

And they looked terrible but they kind of, I feel like, I really feel like those are my friends. Those people that I know now or have known me for six years, seven years now. I think what keeps people coming back is the human being behind it. Lots of blogs have beautiful pictures and that is something that obviously the blogging world is just amazing at creating, but what makes blogging different from magazines and other places where you can see these beautiful images, are that you kind of get to know the human behind them.

I think that really has been, if there’s anything I think that makes my blog popular, it’s that people sort of feel like they know me.

On Her Epic Holiday Fail:

Katy Atlas of Sugarlaws on The Dinner Special podcast talking about her epic holiday fail.

Yes. So last Christmas we . . . well so I have a very big kind of extended family.

We had my parents in town and my sister and then my husband’s parents and his brother and his brother’s wife and their son. And I was responsible for cooking Christmas dinner.

I did all the things in preparation, like I had my recipes ready, I had a schedule of what needed to go in when. It all was going okay until everything got ready. At that moment had I been a really on-the-ball hostess I would have said, “Sit down at the table right now.”

But instead, people were talking and that was fun and so I just sort of gently hinted that people should go to the table. It took like an hour to get everyone to the table, at which point all of our food was burnt.

There was nothing to eat.

Usually I take pictures of everything. I take pictures of my shoes practically every day. But I couldn’t take any pictures of these burnt potatoes because I was so mortified by them.

It was just one of those moments where I was so excited to cook this Holiday dinner and I really felt like I could rise to the challenge. And then I just burned everything.

I think in some ways I actually kind of love it as a story now. At the time I was really disappointed in myself. I couldn’t talk about it for a while. My whole family had to pretend I’d done an okay job, that it wasn’t really that bad. Then they threw everything in the trash after we were done.

So it was just a total epic failure.

But you know I think probably everyone in their life is going to have one of those stories. You know one of those Holiday dinners that just didn’t quite go the way you planned. Those are probably going to be the ones that you remember even more than the ones that go perfectly.

On Cooking:

Katy Atlas of Sugarlaws on The Dinner Special podcast talking about cooking.

I started Sugarlaws when I started getting into cooking. Everybody gets through life making a couple of dishes pretty well so that they can eat. I had a few of those. But really when I started to get fascinated with cooking and with all the techniques and kind of learning about it, not sort of seeing it as a task that has to get done every day, and more seeing it as sort of a creative outlet, and something that I could learn how to do and a skill that I could pick up, that’s really when I started enjoying cooking.

That’s when I started going to the farmers’ market and going to different food blogs and picking out recipes and thinking about what techniques I wanted to master. I took a bunch of cooking classes. It was really a long learning experience that is well documented on Sugarlaws. I kind of went from here are some cookies with four ingredients to all of a sudden I’m piping my own eclairs and rendering duck fat.

Now it’s funny because cooking is still obviously a huge part of our lives but now what I gravitate towards more are easier recipes that can be healthy and manageable for our family. We’ve obviously got a lot on our hands with an eight-month-old and both my husband and I work. So now it’s kind of taken its own little turn but I still really enjoy it.

On Cooking as a Parent:

Katy Atlas of Sugarlaws on The Dinner Special podcast talking about cooking as a parent.

I cook very differently because we used to order out and go out. We could certainly go out on a much more frequent basis and now we don’t.

Now it tends to be a lot more meals that I prepare at home. I find two things. One, is that I have to be a lot more organized about it. It can’t be like, “Oh, I bought two things for a recipe and then I’m missing the other four ingredients,” because then we have no dinner. So that doesn’t work very well. And then also I really strive for recipes that can just be our staples, something that isn’t necessarily learning a new technique all the time but is just like, I know how to make this. I know it will be good.

I love our slow cooker. It’s the lifesaver for a new parent.

Because nothing burns. I definitely kind of experiment still with recipes. I’ll work one into the rotation and see if it works and make it a few times. Then, if it sticks around, then it becomes sort of part of our repertoire and one of the staples. But it definitely has changed a lot.

I definitely gravitate towards healthy but easy and low maintenance, and something that is not going to burn.

On a Dish that’s Good for Parents:

Katy Atlas of Sugarlaws on The Dinner Special podcast talking about a dish that

I have two that are kind of go-to’s a lot, and they’re both slow cooker recipes. I just find that those are just life savers. One of them is barbecue chicken. I’m so obsessed with the recipe that I literally have it going downstairs in our slow cooker for dinner tonight.

It’s the easiest, the recipe’s on the Sugarlaws website but it’s so easy. It’s chicken breasts, barbecue sauce, Worcestershire sauce, Italian dressing and just leave it in the slow cooker for six or eight hours. And then shred it with two forks and put it on a wholewheat bun, and you have a really delicious, incredibly easy dinner that takes, active time, five minutes.

Then I also have a Southwestern stew that’s one of our favorites. It uses black beans and corn and chopped onions. And then a lot of the time I just kind of throw in some taco seasoning. These are really low maintenance recipes but I swear I really do like to cook and can do the fancy stuff too but lately with a baby…

On Her Book Series called Moving Neutral:

Katy Atlas of Sugarlaws on The Dinner Special podcast talking about her books Moving Neutral.

I was an English major in college. I’ve always loved to write, loved to read. I read all the time.

I started reading a ton of young adult books and just love them, love the stories, love the pace of them, love that you could pick them up and sort of fall into these characters’ lives. I just found them really, really enjoyable.

After a while I started getting these characters in my head and, you know, it just kind of felt really natural to try to put . . . well I want to say pen to paper but obviously it was fingers to keyboard. And try to tell the story.

I love writing and I think writing fiction is one of the most fun, enjoyable, hair pulling, intense activities that you can challenge yourself to. The discipline that it takes to write a book is just something that I’m glad that I challenged myself to do because I really learned a lot from it.

I would encourage anyone to take that story that they have sitting around in their head and those characters that they think about every once in a while and try to tell their story. I’m so proud of that as an accomplishment.

It is one of the things that I am probably most proud of at least before our child arrived. I loved it.

I think there’s something to be said for sort of staying in your niche, but I always felt like I write about fashion, I write about food, I write about beauty, but foremost I’m a writer.

Not so much foremost, I am a fashionista or a beauty expert or even a cook, I’m really kind of first and foremost a writer.

The Pressure Cooker:

Which food shows or cooking shows do you watch?

I love Martha Stewart so I watch her show a lot. I have a lot of her cookbooks. I think she’s just totally terrific.

What are some food blogs or websites that we have to know about?

I rely on the big ones like Bon Appetit. Cooking Light actually I think has really good recipes. And then a lot of Joy the Baker, I love her blog. Smitten Kitchen obviously is a huge one that I think probably you already know about, I love her blog. Cupcakes and Cashmere is kind of fashion and food but she always has great recipes.

Who do you follow on Pinterest, Instagram or Twitter that make you happy?

So on Instagram in particular I follow a lot of my friends. I follow a lot of bloggers too.

The nice thing about the blogging community is that the ones that I follow that make me the happiest tend to be the people that I actually kind of know in real life, and have gotten to know through various projects.

They feel like my friends in addition to obviously they’re creators of really, really beautiful content. So I always really like it when I know the person and have some connection to them.

What is something all home cooks should have in their pantry?

Maldon sea salt is the biggest one. You never think of it but it actually makes such a huge difference in your recipes. You don’t want to be pouring table salt on to everything.

Name one ingredient you cannot live without?

Cheese. Like probably parmesan cheese. My husband is always like . . . I’m like, “Let’s just put some parmesan cheese in there” and he’s like, “It doesn’t go in everything.” But I disagree, it pretty much goes in everything.

What are a few cookbooks that make your life better?

Back to Martha Stewart. I have a bunch of Martha Stewart cookbooks that I really, really like. I just find that those recipes are kind of foolproof. They really, really work. They always turn out great.

I also have The Art of Simple Food, which I think is kind of, almost less of a cookbook, and more of just kind of a cooking perspective on which I really, really like.

And then I do a lot online. I love my cookbooks and when I have a Saturday I love browsing through them. But I also, when I’m looking for a recipe, I also look a lot online.

What song or album just makes you want to cook?

I love the 60s and the music of the 60s. So I put on Bob Dylan or Crosby, Stills and Nash or the Beatles. Those are just the songs that sort of speak to my soul, and those are always kind of the immediate go-to songs.

Keep Posted on Katy:

Katy Atlas of Sugarlaws on The Dinner Special podcast talking about keeping posted on her.

My blog is Sugarlaws.com and pretty much across the board on social media I’m just @Sugarlaws. So that’s Twitter and Facebook and Instagram. So it’s easy.

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    003: Jordan Reid: The Best Cooking Tool That’s Ever Happened To Parents

    February 20, 2015 by Gabriel

    Jordan Reid of Ramshackle Glam on The Dinner Special podcast talking about studying neuroscience at Harvard to starting her blog.
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    Jordan Reid of Ramshackle Glam on The Dinner Special podcast The Best Cooking Tool That Has Ever Happened To Parents

    Ramshackle Glam

    I am so happy to have Jordan Reid of Ramshackle Glam here on the show today.

    On Ramshackle Glam, Jordan shares her very personal journey as a mother while also covering fashion, beauty, and entertaining tips. Her website has been featured in Time Magazine, Cosmopolitan, and The New York Observer.

    Jordan has also authored a book called Ramshackle Glam: The New Mom’s Haphazard Guide To (Almost) Having It All.

    On Studying Neuroscience at Harvard to Starting Her Blog:

    Jordan Reid of Ramshackle Glam on The Dinner Special podcast talking about studying neuroscience at Harvard to starting her blog.

    I grew up in New York City and I was an actress when I was a teenager. I went to Harvard and I studied neuroscience thinking, “Oh, it’d be so wonderful to be a doctor, and make my parents extremely proud.” And then I was like, “I think I’m going to go be an actress again.”

    They were as happy about that as you can imagine.

    But then after a few years in Los Angeles, I realized what I really loved to do was sort of a mish-mosh of various things. I love entertaining and cooking and writing and photography and fashion and beauty.

    I loved all of these things and I couldn’t figure out the best way to get to do all of them all at once. People told me it was impossible and I just never felt that it was.

    Then sort of on a whim I started writing a blog. I had never read a blog in my life, ever. I had to ask a friend how to hyperlink. I didn’t know how to set one up.

    It just took off very quickly and it’s been really exciting to get to explore all these different interests through this one channel.

    On Being a Writer:

    Jordan Reid of Ramshackle Glam on The Dinner Special podcast talking about being a writer.

    I said I wanted to be a writer when I was three years old. That was always what I wanted to do and I always wrote. I just never had a channel to express it because you write for yourself. But now a days, with blogs, you can get your words out.

    It’s just such an unbelievable gift.

    And with regards to writing about food, my aunt is actually a cookbook editor. She got me interested in reading Jamie Oliver cookbooks way back in the day and I would read them like novels, sitting down and cover to cover reading them.

    That’s what really got me interested – that food isn’t just… it’s not just what you make. It’s the story behind it that’s always the best part.

    On Cooking for Her Aunt Who’s a Cookbook Editor:

    Jordan Reid of Ramshackle Glam on The Dinner Special podcast talking about cooking for her aunt who

    I am so scared to cook for my aunt because she’s a professional honestly.

    And my thing is all about… I just don’t have the patience for fussing around in the kitchen. I wish I did and I wish I had all day to sit there and hand chop garlic. I just don’t care.

    I want it to taste good, but mostly I want it to taste good now. So my aunt would be horrified to know that when I made that salad, I totally didn’t have a fresh lemon so I just grabbed the lemon squeeze-y bottle.

    I actually had her edit my book, the section on recipes, and I was super nervous but she was very kind. She was gentle with me.

    But no, I haven’t cooked for her but I’m going to make her Matzo ball soup the next time I see her.

    On Cooking as a Parent:

    Jordan Reid of Ramshackle Glam on The Dinner Special podcast talking about cooking as a parent.

    I grew up in New York City and I lived in New York City for the first couple of years of my son’s life. Now we’re in Westchester.

    We certainly could order in every night. It’s not like we have a dearth of restaurants around here. But for me, cooking is a joy and a passion that I have adapted to make space for in my life.

    I don’t have the time or the ability or energy frankly to do it the way I guess I would like to. I’ve just had to find short cuts to make sure that I can cook in a way that makes sense.

    The slow cooker is the best thing that has ever happened to parents.

    Because my son, he’s three, and he loves to cook with me. I think it’s so important when you have kids, especially if you are a cook, to get them in the kitchen immediately. They’re going to want to be in there if they see you in there.

    They’re going to want to touch, and they’re going to want to know about it. If you don’t teach them those skills really, really early, it’s a dangerous place. But, if you teach them, don’t touch this, do touch this, this is what you can do, the kitchen becomes a really special place for families to bond.

    That said, when my son was young I was like, “Get out of the kitchen! Get out of the kitchen!” He was just a whirlwind when he was just learning to walk. That’s when the slow cooker came in handy because you are just like, throw it in and you leave. Your kitchen cooks dinner for you and you don’t even have to think about it. I love it so much.

    On Cooking Fish:

    Jordan Reid of Ramshackle Glam on The Dinner Special podcast talking about cooking fish.

    My husband, he’s like, “I hate fish.” And I was like, “I will change you to the dark side.” Because fish is so healthy and it’s actually so easy.

    I was totally intimidated for a long time until I discovered this method. And it is actually the only way I cook fish on a day to day basis because it’s that easy.

    You just take a piece of aluminum foil, throw in your fish, throw in some white wine and butter and a little lemon juice, and crinkle it up on top. 20 minutes, done.

    And it looks so impressive.

    If you have guests over you’re like, “Here is my foil packet of fish.” And they’re like, “Wow, you spent all day slaving.”

    It’s like 20 minutes.

    On Her Book, Ramshackle Glam: The New Mom’s Guide To (Almost) Having It All

    Jordan Reid of Ramshackle Glam on The Dinner Special podcast talking about her book Ramshackle Glam: The New Mom

    It’s basically a style memoir so it’s really just stories of my experience of my first couple of years with my son. It’s sort of through the lens of style and by style I mean fashion, beauty, entertaining, food, home decor, all of that.

    It’s about how I was always someone who really cared about things like making a really nice dinner, entertaining friends or wearing an outfit that made me feel lovely or whatever. And then once I had a child, I started thinking, do these things have any place in my life anymore?

    I found that they absolutely do.

    You just have to be more flexible. Just a little bit more flexible about how you eat that dinner. You might eat it balanced on your knee while balancing food over the head of your child but you can still eat it.

    I just eat like a wolf. And I have to tell my husband, “I am so sorry. I am just such a disgusting dinner companion.” Because I am so used to shoveling food in as quickly as I can to get back to whatever crisis has developed.

    The Pressure Cooker:

    Which food shows or cooking shows do you watch?

    Anthony Bourdain… anything… anything, the grosser the better.

    What are some food blogs or websites that we have to know about?

    My friend, Alejandra Ramos writes a website called Always Order Dessert that I really love and it’s my current go-to for baking because I can’t bake.

    Who do you follow on Pinterest, Instagram or Twitter that make you happy?

    I mostly follow my friends actually because I feel like Twitter can sound like a huge ballroom full of people just sort of screaming and no one listening.

    I like to follow people who I know personally.

    On Pinterest I follow Cup of Jo. I really like her pins. I think it’s really beautiful.

    What is something all home cooks should have in their pantry?

    I would say a slow cooker.

    Everyone needs to have a slow cooker. It’s an amazing tool that once you get the hang of it, it will just revolutionize your life.

    I think people used to view it as the lazy person’s alternative to making a real meal.

    If you look at more old school recipes they were very creamy. It was like throwing a cup of mushroom soup, and it was just heavy rich meals, were what you used to make with it.

    Now people have rediscovered it. And so now there are so many lighter alternatives to those more traditional meals that you made. But I think it’s having a comeback.

    Name one ingredient you cannot live without?

    Garlic powder. Isn’t that classy? I can’t live without it. I love it.

    Because you know what? The thing about garlic is it’s such a pain to mince. I’m either going to chop off my fingers or your fingers smell like garlic for two weeks. And they do sell those garlic mincers but those are annoying to clean out.

    You know what makes your life easier? Garlic powder.

    What are a few cookbooks that make your life better?

    I have the full collection of Jamie Oliver cookbooks but his first one is my favorite. I think he sounds just so fresh. He’s just got such a fun, original, sweet voice.

    I also really like Mario Batali’s books. I find them difficult but that’s okay once in a while. They’re more fun for me to read and look at than to actually do.

    Honestly, the recipes I actually make, I get off the Internet.

    The cookbooks are for reading and for enjoying and for inspiration more than anything else.

    Keep Posted on Jordan:

    ordan Reid of Ramshackle Glam on The Dinner Special podcast talking about how to keep posted with her.

    Instagram. I am @ramshackleglam. Ramshackleglam.com.

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